Hi Guys,
Say hello to My friend, Ras.
He is the Head Coach of ATACXGYM CAPOEIRA which is his unique expression of the beautiful, yet deadly martial art of Capoeira:
Now its his contention that most of the Capoeira schools out there, are not teaching real world self-defense skills. In fact, he has a name for such schools: Cardio Capoeira. He talks about it in some of his You Tube videos...
And he shows and proves what he's talking about in some of his other videos...
Now, as you can imagine, while he's made many friends in the Martial Arts Community, He's also made many enemies, as I had written some months ago in a blog called MARTIAL ART PIONEERS, AND MARTIAL ART HATERS. They've been trying to hack him, get his You Tube videos shut down etc.
It just shows that Head coach Ras is doing SOMETHING RIGHT, because if he had nothing, then nobody would be coming at him like this.
Sometimes, these enemies try to debate him, and try to demonstrate that they know more about Capoeira, Africa, etc. than he does. And well, so far, Head Coach Ras has shut all of them down.
ALL OF THEM.
Below, is an example that I actually copied from his blog, CAPOEIRA THAT WORKS. I copied it and put it here because on his blog, for some wierd reason, you can only read his words in the sidebar.
Now look at the words below. As you can see, as Ras (ATACX GYM STREET WARRIOR CAPOEIRA), is arguing with FACTS, his opponent can't counter his facts, and instead has to resort to using petty, pathetic little insults.
Hardly a way for a grown man to act.
But Anyway, here's the debate below in bold letters.
Yavor Chomonev Apr 6, 2014 + 1 Reply In all honesty you are pathetic, completely clueless about capoeira and its spirit. You are not a capoeirista, you are a fake.
ATACX GYM STREET WARRIOR CAPOEIRA Mar 21, 2014
+Yavor Chomonev what proof do you have of your claims that I am clueless about capoeira and its spirit, and that I am a fake? What evidence do you have, sir, that shows that you have any skill or knowledge whatsoever about the martial art that you miscall "Capoeira"..and what have you done in the world of capoeira that should encourage any of us to frock your opinion with any weight or validity which is embodied by your actions, movements, character and skill? I ask these questions, sir, without anger or disrespect. I am genuinely curious. I would like to see you provide any form of proof to your accusations that I am without knowledge and a "Capoeira fake"...when I have video proving my skill and teaching knowledge, whereas you have nothing of any sort to ennoble your opinion with evidence of any kind.
Yavor Chomonev Apr 6, 2014 + 1 2 1
No, you have a video teaching something completely different that has barely anything to do with capoeira. You have a video where you diss mestres who have been learning and teaching capoeira since before you were born. The spirit of capoeira is to be playful, cheerful and creative. Your videos are loud, pretentious and self-proclaiming. They are the best proof of how little you know of capoeira. Sir.+ATACX GYM STREET WARRIOR CAPOEIRA
ATACX GYM STREET WARRIOR CAPOEIRA Apr 6, 2014 + 1 0 1
+Yavor Chomonev Where are your videos,+Yavor Chomonev? You have no idea what Kipura aka Capoeira genuinely is. Therefore, sir, you have no idea what I show in my videos. I have proven that rather resoundingly via citing the ACTUAL scholarly history of Kipura whenever we disagreed, and I pointed out that the man you denigrated..Nestor Capoeira, one of the first 5 REAL Red Belts in Capoeira...has done more both in the field of scholarly work and on the streets with Capoeira than you ever have, therefore you do not have the body of work or the bonafides to cast legitimate criticisms about him. Furthermore, sir, the spirit of Kipura [ miscalled Capoeira ] is similar to or the same as every genuine martial art: IT IS FOR SELF DEFENSE. IT IS A SPIRIT OF WARRIORS. You, however, never practice self defense. Unfortunately, neither do the people in the video above. Therefore, you literally ahve no idea of what you speak. Literally. You have no idea of the genuine warrior spirit history and application of Kipura, and neither does anyone else who does not practice self defense with Kipura, in precisely the same sense that a tree has no idea what it's like to swim in the depths of the ocean. I excel at both the roda and real self defense, and luminaries like Dan Inosanto and Mestre Amen Santos have specifically acknowledged such things about me. So has Diogenese Assahida, the man who taught Anderson Silva the style of Muay Thai that Anderson used during his first year as UFC Champion. So has John Hackleman, the coach of Chuck Liddell and Glover Teixara. I have the proof and the pictures to go along with it. Who has said such things about you, sir? That is...assuming that you're not Jennifer Azeitona, who already knows these things about me and knows the invincibility of my position despite her feckless criticisms. ''
The JOGO is oftentimes playful, cheerful. CAPOEIRA AS A WHOLE is NOT playful, cheerful, etc. If you saw my instructionals or read the hundreds of testimonies about it, you will note that many people specifically note that I laugh and joke with my training partners right there on film during the instructional. WE HAVE FUN. So even this aspect of your criticism is as without merit as everything else you have sought to criticise me for, sir.
You are entitled to whatever opinion about me...however egregiously false and incorrect your opinions are...as you wish. I have no problem with that. But let's see you show something...ANYTHING...of your own. Sir, it is easy to be critical of others who are actually the doers, strivers, those who actually put themselves out there with their work...when you hide safe snug and frankly without the conviction or knowledge that you claim that you have while you snipe from the sidelines in the best keyboard warrior tradition. I'm not being disrespectful, but this is not our first go-round with each other, and your pattern of behavior is clear. Even as you emulate my style of posting and my use of the word "sir", while dropping the typically profane and abusive way that you usually post towards me.
Yavor Chomonev Apr 6, 2014
Again, how do videos equal an argument, buddy? I don't know if there are any videos of me because when I play i PLAY CAPOEIRA and don't film myself, and even if there are, I am a very private person and wouldn't show them to you. Is doing Achutato suddenly going to prove my point, is that what you are saying?
Honestly, you get dumber with every post. +ATACX GYM STREET WARRIOR CAPOEIRA
ATACX GYM STREET WARRIOR CAPOEIRA Apr 6, 2014
+Yavor Chomonev how does video equal an argument? You ever watch television at all? You ever watch the Olympics? ESPN? Pro sports with Instant Replay? News reels? War clips? Space shuttle launches? You ever watch the Super Bowl or World Cup? Boxing or MMA? Can you tell the difference between the specific appearance and style of Anderson Silva, Lyoto Machida, Buakaw por Pramuk and Yves Edwards better if you read a text article on it, or watched extensive video on each of them yourself?
Oftentimes, if you watch an event, you may come away with a different impression from it than the average person does. But what information informs your opinion is specifically the purview of video. No other medium.
The ironic thing is that you're questioning the decisive value and benefit of video when we're having this discussion on YOUTUBE, which is singularly KNOWN for...wait for it...VIDEO. You have an account specifically to this service.
And your inaccurate assessment of me is because you misanalyzed in every humanly possible way my...yes indeed...VIDEO.
The audiovisual medium of video provides information and opportunities that literally no other medium can provide en mass. A skilled knowledgeable and experience eye can tell right away whether you can do anything that you claim to do and whether you have any skill whatsoever. You do not do such things because you lack all the skills and background that you claim you do. End of story.
Yavor Chomonev Apr 11, 2014
You are trying to drown the discussion in semantics instead of giving me a straightforward argument. It just shows how full with shit you actually are. Also, I am not from the US and I don't watch ESPN or Super Bowl.+ATACX GYM STREET WARRIOR CAPOEIRA
ATACX GYM STREET WARRIOR CAPOEIRA Apr 13, 2014
+Yavor Chomonev There are no semantics involved, only simple straightforward facts. Do the moves in the above video TESOURA DE FRENTE work reliably as presented anywhere except in a Cardio Capoeira roda? No.Why do they work in the Cardio Capoeira roda? Because Cardio Capoeriistas do not train for nor are they interested in developing genuine self defense skills, and they usually avoid making contact with their blows takedowns etc at all costs [ their cardio capoeria roda rules prevent contact, although the real Kipura warriors always made contact in rodas ]. Well, how can anyone not training functionally for self defense, not making contact, not training against resisting partners, acquire genuine functional self defense skill? Answer: they never acquire reliable self defense skill using their dysfunctional approach.And anyone saying otherwise...including you, Yavor...is probably: a liar, uninformed, an idiot, or a mixture of the three. Literally every Cardio Capoeira Mestre falls in one or all three of the above.
Do people who train as the well-meaning, good intentioned, sincere people in the TESOURA DE FRENTE video above generate genuine self defense skills using the techniques they train in the manner they train? No. Have you ever shown yourself, +Yavor Chomonev to have any knowledge of or skill with Capoeira in self defense? No. I have videos showing that I do precisely what nobody who does Cardio Capoeira--like you--can ever do, yet lies to the public and claims that they do. You never show a single viable self defense technique, and you never show yourself sparring with people outside of your discipline. You never show yourself even practicing Capoeira, because frankly people like you [ not including other well meaning Cardio Capoeriistas who are misled by their Cardio Capoeria Mestres...and said Mestres are misled by their own Mestres directly due to the Brazilian government's program of Blanqueamiento, which is designed to destroy real Kipura/Capoeira and everything African and true along with it. https://www.google.com/webhp?source=search_app#q=brazil+blanqueamiento]. Neither you nor anyone on planet Earth who trains as [ allegedly ] you and the people in this video can will has or ever has done such a thing as be even remotely worthwhile in self defense, and therefore deserves every bit of skepticism you get regarding functional self defense skill and practice. Is history replete with Kipura [ miscalled "Ca[oeira' ] warriors like me who have and do win wars and fights using exclusively REAL Kipura? Yes.Therefore...by sheer performance alone...we have the truth. If you can't fight with your styel of Capoeira? There is nothing functional or real about you. You are not learning true Capoeria culture, because true Capoeira culture is suffused with warrior practice and warrior spirit. You are not learning Capoeira history language or anything else worthwhile except for exercises musica and dance. You are, in short, being duped swindled and ripped off...oftentimes by Cardio Capoeria Mestres who themselves have been duped swindled and ripped off by their own Mestres, leading back...again...to the Brazilian govenerment's use of "blanqueamiento". The problem with you, sir, is that I have educated you regarding your fallacies numerous times. You exercise your right to continue to be misled, miseducated, and champion positions utterly without fact, logic, merit, context, or anything else whatsoever of worth. Whic, again, is your choice. But which, again, is contrary to REAL history, which shows the real practice of real Kipura warriors and how utterly lethal we truly are. If there are others who wish to see the scientific, academically researched, proven and invincible truth, please follow the link I provide here:http://atacxgymcapoeira.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-african-origin-of-capoeira.html
ATACX GYM STREET WARRIOR CAPOEIRA Apr 13, 2014
Here is the second link proving where and how real Kipura aka Capoeira fighting skill developed, how to do it, etc. http://atacxgymcapoeira.blogspot.com/2014_04_01_archive.html
Yavor Chomonev Apr 14, 2014 + 1 2 1
Wow, I knew you were an uneducated idiot, but I didn't think you were delusional, paranoid and batshit crazy.
It's pretty easy to check if I exist, or do you think I created this Google profile, my Facebook profile and my LinkedIn profile for your sake years ago? Were you dropped as a baby or are you too stupid to use Google?
I honestly don't know what's more pathetic - your third grade English (seriously, mine is better and English is my third language), that you took the time to write a little novel just for my sake (got a lot of free time for a major "pro MA artist", dontcha?
Now that we've got that out of the way:
"You thought you were asking a rhetorical question you asked: "What records do we have of these people, the Mbundu, showing that the Mbundu used their martial art in war?""
I never said that. Why are you lying, honey? You poor thing, now you are making shit up?
Then you proceed to mask how little you actually have to say with long words, more grammatical mistakes, some childish insults and you base your entire argument on the presumption that I think Montu doesn't exist.
Meanwhile, here I am, wondering if you will ever produce any evidence of a connection between capoeira and any other martial arts besides batuque. Wondering what any of this shit has to do with me saying that you are a complete idiot who has absolutely no idea what capoeira actually is.+ATACX GYM STREET WARRIOR CAPOEIRA
Vaqueiro Capoeira 3:02 AM + 1 2 1
Thanks +Yavor Chomonev . Now, +ATACX GYM STREET WARRIOR CAPOEIRA I find it amazing that you mentionMestre Nestor as being one of the first REAL red belts...you have absolutely no idea about "red" belts and their meaning. I have met Mestre Nestor and a number of founders and high ranking Mestres of Senzala, and if you ever get the chance to do so, you will see what they have to say about your discrediting of "their" capoeira as opposed to yours.
I seriously doubt the veracity of your words regarding this matter, as I have only quoted Mestre Nestor Capoeira's own words and own works on the mater of him being one of the first 5 red belts. Furthermore, I have never ever discredited any "capoeira" expression which has kept its self defense roots.
Also, i have so roundly destroyed in each and every one of our previous discussions that your agreement with him in any matter further aligns you with lack of fact or anything else of combat merit when speaking of the African Montu that "Capoeira" is part and parcel of.
Here is the ienscapable bottom line: My African ancestors used our African Montu to succesfully combat slavers slavery racism, etc. Yavor Chomonev and presumably you as well do not practice self defense in any substantive way therefore whatever you do it is not in accord with he African art, the African culture even when transplanted to Brazil and the rest of the Americas, the African struggle, or anything else of substance. Your practice comes directly from what Nestor Capoeira noted in his book that real fighting "Capoeiristas" called "Tourist capoeira".
Tourist. Capoeira. Not the "Capoeira" of Bimba, Pastinha, Besouro, the Maltas, Zumbi, Los Zouavos, or literally any other Afro-Brazilian warrior. Not the "Capoeira" of El Barulho in the Curva Grande of 1917. The lineage of Cardio Capoeira is directly tied to the racism and government poltiics of Brazil which spawned "Tourist Capoeira". And that's why Cardio Capoeira still evinces racism, politics, fecklessness, and complete ineffectualness in self defense.
If not? Then the entire practice of what you call "capoeira" would have a more combative bent to it. Note how the African Montu literally everywhere else in the Americas have indeed kept their spiritual, cultural and combat roots...but these same Montu arts still have Black fighting leaders and do not have large organizations that have been coopted by their enemies, as Brazilian "capoeira" has been. In precisely the same way that karateka have both kumite and kata, transmit Japanese culture and effective combat at the same time? So too does any Montu art transmits its spiritual cultural and combat gems of knowledge via the African...not Brazilian...and African-American [ whether the "American" part refers to North Central or South America ] cultural historical spiritual etc perspective. Anything...anything...that does not transmit this information yet claims to be of the Montu arts in the Americas is simply NOT what it claims to be.
That's right. I said it. In addition to being trained in a way that is so combatively ineffective that my African ancestors would vomit had they had the misfortune of seeing what their Montu has been watered down into becoming, and coopted into being, I say again that...even if you don't know it or mean it this way...your entire position is reflective of the racism, sexism, and purview of priviledge which saturates institutions worldwide and is one of the largest problems not just in Cardio Capoeira but also the world. Racism. Sexism. Embedded in Cardio Capoeira organizations.
Which, had you been perceptive enough to do even cursory research on the matter, you would discover is not a new revelation at all. What I have said above IS fact unassailable. Again.
http://mandingueira.com/tag/racism/
http://mandingueira.com/2008/05/28/why-sexist-capoeirista-is-an-oxymoron/
These facts are the dagger to the heart. The final destructive blow. The reality that is irreconcilable with any position that you have taken thus far. Because, if ANYTHING that you and the profane said were true, then:
1. I couldn't prove and thousands of students worldwide who've never previously heard of me and most of whom have never met wouldn't concur that the current Cardio Capoeira practices are not only wholly ineffective in self defense in a reliable, consistent way [ unlike literally all other fighting systems ], and htey wouldn't assert that they left Cardio Capoeira because of its FAILED promise to teach how to utilize its beautiful aesthetics in self defense. Whereas I have actually done these things...used acrobatic, functional self defense...in public. While sparring spontaneously. As recently as last week, and I will do it again today. Where is the video evidence that you and/or Yavor can do the same? Absent? I thought so.
2. If what you said was true...we wouldn't be having this discussion. My main beefs with Cardio Capoeira is that its claims perpetuate the colonial mindset and pogrom of the racists who created it. If
-People and or groups trained for self defense
-Acknowledged the African root and culture of this African Montu in action word and deed, not just paid lip service to it
-Didn't perpetuate the destructive racism and sexism of the enemies of Montu
-Embraced and flocked to learn from more African, or Afro-hyphenated instructors who are worthy of the title and qualified in all primary matters attendant to Montu, including the history of Africa AND THE WORLD and how we are all made better for our unity
I wouldn't have ANY problem with what they do.
I have no problem with cardio boxing and cardio kickboxing.
I'd have no problem with Cardio Capoeira either if they rectified the above matters.
3. If what you said was in any way true, the combat roots and combat self defense practice of Kipura would still be vibrantly obvious...along with its spiritual and cultural heritage. This truth would be inescapable, like it is with Afro-Haitian "fencing", the deadly art colloquially called "stick licking" and every other African rooted fighting system in the Americas. Even the hybrid 52 Blocks evinces this obviousness.
But Cardio Capoeiristas such as Yavor and almost certainly you as well, sir, will CLAIM the lineage of my warrior ancestors yet EMBODY THE DESIRES OF THE ENEMIES OF MY ANCESTORS. In fact, you embody the desires of OUR enemies who are enemies of OUR ...yours and my..."Capoeira" ancestors as well, as these "Capoeiristas" were almost 100% African even in Brazil...FOR CENTURIES. Even with racial mixing, we see the Afro-hyphenated people who would be more correctly categorized as African-Americans [ just not all from the U.S.A. ] and/or Afro-Caribbeans.
And yet. I am the only one of us railing against your behavior. On the other hand? Were we to be transported back in time, you would not be practicing "Capoeira". You would regard "Capoeira" as the odious physical culture of criminals hooligans ne'er-do-wells and gangsters. Similarly to the way we in general repudiate the reprehensible actions of drug lords and their brutal enforcers. I, on the other hand, would be deeply immersed in every facet of "Capoeira" because slavery would be an inescapable hostile reality for me, and I would either overcome it or die under its boot heel. Since I'm not the kind to die under any kind of boot heel, my options are but one.
And that is the difference between us now.
That is the difference between authentic Montu and Cardio Capoeira. It's the difference between the invincible substance and scholarship of my posts and the glaring lack of same in all of yours. It is the difference between actually being able to do what I talk about...like I can...and the apparent absolute lack of same for you and Yavor.
It is the difference between the truth I am, and the falsehood you represent in your arguments, if not your person.[ I don't know you personally so I won't cast personal aspersions. You might be a great guy. Your Capoeira positions by and large suck, however. ]
It's the difference between the Montu and the Cardio. It's the difference between the Street Warrior...and those who are not.
In short..it's the difference between me n you.
Now that was brutal, wasn't it?
Well, if you want to see 3 more blog posts with Coach Ras layin' the smack down on one of his other haters, GIVE ME A HELL YEAH!!!!
Well actually, you can just click on the links below...
DEBATE: HERE'S HOW YOU CHIN CHECK A HATER REGARDING THE TRUE HISTORY OF KIPURA
ANOTHER DESTRUCTION OF A DISSENTER IN A DEBATE
RACISM AND SEXISM IN CAPOEIRA EXPOSED IN MY DEBATE WITH VAQUEIRO CAPOEIRA
O.K., I'm gonna end with this video. It's an older advertisment that Head Coach Ras made of his ATACX GYM STREET WARRIOR CAPOEIRA BASICS VOLUME 1
As I said before, ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY WHO IS INTERESTED IN CAPOEIRA, SELF DEFENSE, OR BOTH, SHOULD BUY THIS INSTRUCTIONAL!!!
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